More research on NAA (the auxin in superthrive) has revealed that, besides being a registered pesticide, it is also used to prevent sprouting on non-fruit bearing trees.


references:
http://www.epa.gov/pesticides/reregi...e_acetic_acid/
http://www.epa.gov/pesticides/reregi..._factsheet.htm

Your article is not about Auxin or Superthrive Will it is about B1
This is not new research it is old research and it is exactly the reason that Auxin works as a wonder tonic.

Maybe you could address the fact that Linda that you referenced does not use any references with her work? She also uses alot of maybey's and can's to make things sound the way she wants it too.

Brett S wrote:Your article is not about Auxin or Superthrive Will it is about B1
This is not new research it is old research and it is exactly the reason that Auxin works as a wonder tonic.

Maybe you could address the fact that Linda that you referenced does not use any references with her work? She also uses alot of maybey's and can's to make things sound the way she wants it too.

a) My article is about the myths of bonsai, in which I named superthrive by name. Superthrive contains B1, a single sniff will confirm this.

b) Some auxins are very beneficial, others are not. The auxin in superthrive is a registered pesticide and is used to prevent sprouting on trees. I can't speak for others, but I kind of like my bonsai to sprout....

c) My article is fully referenced.


and d) even if the advantages of the auxin in superthrive somehow outweighs the disadvantages, there is no good reason why a person should dump all the other useless ingredients in superthrive on their bonsai along with it. Auxins are available in other forms, for example rooting hormones in which we can purchase and apply the exact percentages needed for the desired results.

Common sense speaks for itself on this matter, I believe.



Will

but I kind of like my bonsai to sprout....

When you first repot a tree would you rather more roots or more sprouts to grow.

Auxin in general reduces crown growth in favour of root growth. It is used in many professional horticultural endevours from wholesale nurseries to orchad growers it is safe when used correctly just like our added fertiliser.
Some say the concentration of superthrive is worth the money it costs. B1 is a very small concentration of Superthrive. 0.09% I have no idea how sensitive your nose is but my guess is it is the organic matter that you can smell.

You may have referenced but one of your main sources does not. The lack of referencing denies any checking of her claims? If you clarify what she states it shows that Auxin in superthrive has shown benificial results if used when transplanting. This translates to superthrive being benificial when transplanting. Linda uses unreferenced studies to denounce one of the ingredients B1 as being no use to the tree but is there any study of it's advantages to the soil? It seems plants have no use for it but do microbial organisims?


Your article does not address Auxin in Superthrive. Niether does it address the biousables that allow the nutrients in the soil to be unlocked for the tree to use. You address only one ingredient of Superthrive.

This is becoming redundant.

Once again, the auxin in superthrive by no means justifies the use of the product, as stated, there are better sources for auxin. We can purchase rooting hormones that are tailored to species by differing percentages of auxin and which do not contain a useless product such as B1. Knowing this, it is very hard to justify the use of superthrive when there are better products available.

However, you are free to use the product all you want, personally I will not be dumping a pesticide and sprout preventer on my bonsai, in fact many of the best bonsaist in the world do not.

Are you promoting the use of the product superthrive, are you a retailer, do you use the product?



Will

This is becoming redundant.

Once again, the auxin in superthrive by no means justifies the use of the product, as stated, there are better sources for auxin. We can purchase rooting hormones that are tailored to species by differing percentages of auxin and which do not contain a useless product such as B1.

Would you please state wich product you suggest will do a better job than superthrive.

It is hard to work out wether you say superthrive will not work or you just dislike the product.

However, you are free to use the product all you want, personally I will not be dumping a pesticide and sprout preventer on my bonsai, in fact many of the best bonsaist in the world do not.

If you suggest using a different rooting hormone chances are it too contains the same auxin you tell us to aviod for rediculous fear orientated reasons?
Maybe there are many best bonsaist in the world that don't use it. There are just as many who do.

Brett, your questions have already been answered. However, you have not yet answered mine, are you endorsing superthrive, do you sell this product, do you use it personally?



Will

As usual will your view on who is avioding questions is vastly different to normal. There is no conspiricy I am just dealing with the facts that you aviod with your twisted use of the english language

Brett S wrote:As usual will your view on who is avioding questions is vastly different to normal. There is no conspiricy I am just dealing with the facts that you aviod with your twisted use of the english language

I am not insulting you, please do not insult me, my words are not twisted, nor am I avoiding the facts.

I asked you direct questions twice, I'll ask again for the third time....are you endorsing the use of superthrive, do you sell this product, do you use it personally?


Will

Yes you are insulting my inteligence